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Would I Be a Failure If…..

  • 21/03/2017
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I need your help as I have a dilemma. I’m not normally one to ask for comments or opinions but I’m really torn. Doing Hadrian’s Wall training now for about 6 months, I’ve only carried nearly full bag twice. That’s 25kg. Having only carried it twice, first time was ok and second I strained my ankle which has now led to Achilles pain on the same foot. I had a look for potential solutions and the obvious one is to carry less. So a support driver or another option. Heavy items in the bag are tent, sleeping bag, food for the week and spare clothes. All non essential for the daytime walking. As we don’t have a support driver, one option is a baggage drop service where they’ll take 15kg to your next campsite. This means effectively my bag could weigh 10kg and make the trek loads more enjoyable. But is using the baggage support cheating? Especially considering we’re doing it for charity? Please give me your honest views not just the ones you think I wanna hear. Appreciate it,Phill]]>

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36 comments
  1. Huw Fletcher says:
    21/03/2017 at 10:05 pm

    Would you be a failure if you took an action that lessened the chance of an injury that prevented you from completing the task?
    No! If it makes it easier for you go for it. If it was a weekend thing I’d come and drive for you ?

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    1. Phill Joseph Palmer says:
      21/03/2017 at 10:10 pm

      Would ask that if you mate but thanks.

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    2. Phill Joseph Palmer says:
      21/03/2017 at 10:10 pm

      Literally 25kg is so heavy. It’s defo a challenge

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    3. Huw Fletcher says:
      21/03/2017 at 10:12 pm

      You kidding? I’d fill my day hooning round the Epic driving roads up there ??

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    4. Phill Joseph Palmer says:
      21/03/2017 at 10:15 pm

      Haha

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    5. Phill Joseph Palmer says:
      21/03/2017 at 10:15 pm

      And camping over night with us lot 🙂 well it’s £7 a bag and 6 of us. Not bad for a 10 mile bag drop

      Reply
  2. Naomi Perilli says:
    21/03/2017 at 11:03 pm

    If you’re still walking it is not cheating.

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    1. Phill Joseph Palmer says:
      22/03/2017 at 2:43 am

      Yeah I suppose you’re right. Better to finish

      Reply
  3. Jane Arschavir says:
    22/03/2017 at 1:31 am

    It’s not a dilemma, it’s a no brainer mate.

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    1. Phill Joseph Palmer says:
      22/03/2017 at 2:43 am

      You can see where I’m coming from though

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    2. Jane Arschavir says:
      22/03/2017 at 7:33 am

      Yeh, do the race, get someone else to do the lifting.

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    3. Phill Joseph Palmer says:
      22/03/2017 at 12:24 pm

      Haha

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  4. Clare Ingram says:
    22/03/2017 at 3:41 am

    Not cheating at all and sounds immensely sensible. Don’t be so hard on yourself (I know we’re always our own worst critic). You’ve gone from being in pain with your back to walking Hadrian’s Wall, that is a massive achievement!
    Would you consider someone who cycled LEJOG with a support car a “cheater”? I wouldn’t and this is no different x

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    1. Clare Ingram says:
      22/03/2017 at 3:43 am

      PS we would have loved to join you / be a support car but we have a wedding that weekend. Keep up the fab work! ?

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    2. Kath Davies says:
      22/03/2017 at 10:40 pm

      No it’s not cheating!!! Just being sensible. Good luck and well done.x

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      1. Phill Joseph Palmer says:
        22/03/2017 at 10:53 pm

        Thank you it’s gonna be tough

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    3. Phill Joseph Palmer says:
      23/03/2017 at 7:46 am

      That’s amazing thank you and I know you would have x

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  5. Natalie Ray says:
    22/03/2017 at 6:43 am

    Carry a bivvy bag instead of a tent? It shouldn’t weigh that much. Take some advice from people who run ultra marathons on reducing the weight because they manage with really small packs that they have to run with. Whether other people think you’d be a failure or not is irrelevant. If you’re happy using a baggage drop, use one. If not, reduce the weight.

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    1. Phill Joseph Palmer says:
      22/03/2017 at 6:47 am

      Ultra marathons aren’t running for 7 days having to carry their own food and home away from home that’s the issue. I’m not a seasoned hiker so dont think I could cope with a Bivvy especially if it rains. Could possibly look at food drops etc.

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    2. Natalie Ray says:
      22/03/2017 at 6:50 am

      That’s what I mean, the long one-stage racers do just that. I think you’ve answered your own question though, you’ll need to get some help as a bivvy instead of a tent is the only way to safely reduce the weight and you can’t risk injury or you won’t make it.

      Reply
  6. Simon Tiplady says:
    22/03/2017 at 7:19 am

    What date are you doing this? I know you’ve told me but I can’t remember

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    1. Phill Joseph Palmer says:
      22/03/2017 at 7:20 am

      26th April

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  7. Stephen Morrison says:
    22/03/2017 at 7:46 am

    You are still doing the walk. This type of bag service is common on the West Highland Way

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    1. Phill Joseph Palmer says:
      22/03/2017 at 12:24 pm

      Yeah I though so

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  8. Gareth Torrance says:
    22/03/2017 at 8:44 am

    I can’t really answer your question about it being cheating, as I really don’t know… But it certainly sounds like the sensible option…

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  9. Joanne Mallon says:
    22/03/2017 at 10:01 am

    No, I think it sounds like a wise move, if anything. You’re still doing the walk and that’s the important part.

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  10. Dave Ryan says:
    22/03/2017 at 5:01 pm

    What about pulling a trailer?
    You can get hiking trailers, takes all the weight off your back and you are still self sufficient.

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    1. Phill Joseph Palmer says:
      22/03/2017 at 5:36 pm

      Saw some. The cost is phenomenal!

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    2. Dave Ryan says:
      22/03/2017 at 5:37 pm

      Hire?

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    3. Phill Joseph Palmer says:
      22/03/2017 at 5:38 pm

      Might as well use transport service. Just for tent, sleeping bag and spare food.

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  11. David Mellor says:
    22/03/2017 at 7:47 pm

    No shame in getting help if you’re injured Phill. Better to complete the walk and raise money (and the all important awareness) than struggle to do any of it. As such, a transport service would do the job. I’m not sure how big your team is but depending on numbers another very simple option is to split the kit. That’s what team mates are for. Every expedition I’ve ever led has resulted in kit getting moved around as one member or another struggles. It’ll also save you money ??. Very best of luck with it either way.

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    1. Phill Joseph Palmer says:
      22/03/2017 at 10:53 pm

      We all need food, shelter,
      Clothing and sleeping equipment. That’s the bulk of it.

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    2. David Mellor says:
      23/03/2017 at 6:56 am

      Yeah I understand that. However, if the people you’re with are experienced backpackers of have experience of expeditions it really won’t be uncommon to them, so don’t be afraid to explore it with them. Dropping 10kg between 5 other members (for example) is very doable. Like I said though, the bag drop is also a great option and you shouldn’t feel negative about it. Either way, you’re transporting yourself across a significant distance ??

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    3. Phill Joseph Palmer says:
      23/03/2017 at 7:19 am

      We’re all in experienced which makes it even more of a challenge ?

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    4. David Mellor says:
      23/03/2017 at 7:24 am

      Ah no worries then. No debate to be had: the bag drop it is! Very best of luck again.

      Reply
    5. Phill Joseph Palmer says:
      23/03/2017 at 7:45 am

      Thanks David I think you’re right

      Reply

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